Why The Olympic Bid Process Is Corrupt And How It Majorly Changes Your City…

Why The Olympic Bid Process Is Corrupt And How It Majorly Changes Your City…

Welcome to your extra morning show. My name is philip. Defranco And today we’re gonna be talking about the olympics now the olympics as you probably already know is a two-week yoyoeihushauaiaianaiajaiaaequestrian jumping from Taekwondo to the terrifying but so so exciting skeleton But recently the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo have come under scrutiny after vote-buying Allegations have come out- – with mounting pressure The president of Japan’s Olympic Committee announced that he would be stepping down over allegations that he paid two Million dollars to influence the vote of some international olympic committee or IOC members This is also not the first time that a vote-buying scandal has shaken up the IOC in fact many recent Olympic Games have been peppered with corruption allegations from 2002 in Salt Lake City To 2012 in London. But maybe the most interesting part about the Olympics is that the bidding process is corrupted by vote-buying Despite there being tons of evidence that the games Consistently hurt the cities and countries that they visit. On the other hand the IOC continues to claim Economic benefits and a worthwhile legacy from hosting the games so with that said to take you through how consistently corrupt the Olympic bidding process is and what the Olympics mean for the cities that host the competition we had Dylan Siegel from the Rogue rocket team dive into it Jubilant officials and residents celebrated at a huge outdoor rally But in the last several weeks charges have been leveled that Salt Lake City officials bribed Olympic officials to get the games Those officials have admitted giving four hundred thousand dollars in college scholarships to 13 beneficiaries After multiple investigations of the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics finished Ten IOC members either resigned or were forced out and an independent ethics panel Reportedly concluded that around 1.2 million dollars worth of cash Scholarships jobs medical treatment shopping sprees and other expenses were gifted to IOC delegates by the Salt Lake City Olympic Committee to gain votes After the scandal surrounding 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics the IOC made massive reforms including an Ethics Commission which still exists and a special IOC Commission to create a new code of ethics, but Fast forward nearly two decades in Brazil police have raided the home of the head of the country’s Olympic Committee as part of an international investigation into suspected vote-buying Carlos Nuzman the president of the Brazilian Olympic Committee was among several targets Nuzman was accused of coordinating a two million dollar payment to a Senegalese athlete named Lamine Diack to secure votes of IOC members from African nations in 2017 the IOC suspended Nuzman. Well, I think that the Entire system is is corrupt and that in in order to deal with With vote-buying you have to take away the power of the members of the IOC to decide who gets to host the Olympic Games that’s Andrew Zimbalist professor of economics at Smith College who’s written extensively about the Olympics, sports and Economics and just like he said, the entire system appears to be corrupt, when Salt Lake City’s bid was being investigated It came out to the 1998 Olympics in Nagano Japan were also tainted by gift-giving The 2000 Sydney Olympics faced questions that 2 IOC members received free trips to European sports events In 2004 the BBC aired an undercover report where they posed as a consultancy firm looking to help bring the Olympics to London in 2012 the Team eventually connected with an IOC member who was later suspended for meeting with them And of course the 2020 Tokyo Olympics have faced vote-buying allegations also But even though the bid process appears to be tainted some believe the event still has many benefits the Olympics are the place where thousands of athletes come together to compete for perhaps the highest prize in their sport and they are probably the largest stage in the world for people to triumph for themselves their country a movement or an idea At the 2000 Sydney Olympics Cathy Freeman a member of Australia’s native Population lit the Olympic fire at the opening ceremony the decision for her to light The fire was widely viewed as an effort to create some sort of conversation about the subjugation of the native Australian population She would even go on to win gold for the 400 meter dash that year In 1980 the US and USSR faced off not with their nuclear arsenals, but in the ice hockey rink The Soviets had dominated ice hockey for years but that year the US team triumphed four to three in what is now known as the Miracle on Ice a Triumph for the US over the so-called communist menace The IOC especially promotes an Olympic legacy as a main reason to host the games sometimes that legacy means economic development, and other times It’s a vague message of Impacting lives — Their approach in staging the games was to be a turning point in the way that a host city could use the Olympics To not just provide you sports facilities But to transform its urban landscape, strengthen its position on the world map, and create broader social and environmental benefits Beijing was a vivid example of the games legacy in action touching millions of people proponents of the Olympics have also looked to the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics as an example of financial success of the roughly quarter billion dollar surplus generated from those Olympics the LA 84 foundation received 93 million dollars and has supported youth sports in LA with hundreds of millions of dollars since then The IOC also claims numerous economic benefits For cities that have hosted the games in recent years the 2000 Olympics in Sydney, Australia reportedly brought an estimated 4.8 to 5.3 billion dollar GDP boost and 100,000 new jobs to Australia even the 2016 Rio Olympics known most for its now abandon Olympics facilities and many problems leading up to the games, is purported to have generated an economic benefit For example, the IOC says that Brazil welcomes 6.6 million foreign tourists in 2016 or a 4.8 percent increase from the previous year So with that in mind perhaps you’re thinking it’s understandable why countries are interested in buying the votes to host the Olympics? but there is no shortage of evidence that the Olympics have hurt and cost the cities and countries they visit and especially in the last two decades, costs have trended enormously upwards with zero profit and Taxpayers are forced to pick up the remaining costs that swell into the billions The 2000 Sydney games cost about five billion dollars The 2004 games in Greece cost about 11 billion dollars Some even credited the games with pushing Greece into a financial spiral because the government ended up having to pay the debt The 2008 Beijing Games cost around 40 billion dollars The 2014 Sochi games in Russia cost the most of any Olympics at about fifty billion dollars The 2018 games in Pyeongchang South Korea cost about 13 billion dollars and one stadium will reportedly have been used only four times before being demolished But professor Zimbalist explained that the nature of the Olympics has changed “They were supposed to be athletic events They were never supposed to be construction events They have turned into construction events and it’s become very focused on this false notion of promoting economic development of promoting infrastructure development and And paying attention to to construction profits” On the other hand many see the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles Breaking that trend in part because it generated a budget surplus in the 1984 games But those games are unique because they were largely privately funded another reason LA might work again is because it had in 1984 and again has Plenty of the infrastructure to host the games already from hotels and the hospitality industry To the stadiums and college campuses complete with athletic facilities But we spoke with Steve Doocy an organizer for NOlympics LA who said even though LA generated a surplus in 1984 There are plenty of reasons to reject the Olympics today. “The three primary reasons are One the displacement and gentrification of communities that often happens when a games comes to a city The second is the militarization of our police force that typically happens in cities when they host the Olympic Games And then you know, one of the other ones is just the diversion of public resources From things that could actually benefit the people of Los Angeles as opposed to just the boosters of the games themselves we see, you know time and is one of the most valuable resources that our City officials have and how much time are they spending trying to – you know – Welcome the world for 2028 when they could be spending that time Addressing the things that are problems in the city right now” Steve brought up a point about diverting resources and the potentially hidden costs of the games in Los Angeles But those costs are perhaps most clearly seen in other cities “Well in most urban environments where land is scarce and there, you know millions of people living in the areas People have to be moved. For Beijing’s Olympics in 2008. They the Journalistic reports are: they moved between 1.2 and 1.4 million people out of their homes they just pushed him out of their homes In Atlanta in 1996. They had to destroy two low income income communities Rio *studder* in 2016 they reportedly kicked 77000 ‘Favelados’, people who live in shanty towns, out of their homes” And the costs ranged from disrupting daily life to ecological damage But the IOC nor LA 2028 responded to our requests for interviews, but still with these obvious costs Why are cities still buying votes to host the games Steve gave us his thoughts “these are – international, you know oligarchs effectively, you know, I mean a good portion of the IOC or royalty and you know, These are people who tread in the same circles of elite influence It’s not too much of a stretch to say that you know the very same interests that benefit on the ground and that Effectively end up causing a harm to the cities on the ground are also part of that same You know culture of corruption” So by now at least two things are clear about the Olympics The first is that they have large cost to many cities’ residents and governments and second: corrupt vote-buying has appeared to continue despite the obvious Costs and budget and in disrupted lives, but in recent years Olympics have become increasingly unpopular “skating on a very thin edge now they’re at the precipice of having having basically Destroyed the interest around the world in hosting the games because of what a heavy burden It’s been in a financial way in an environmental way and in a social way” Multiple countries have pulled out of the bid for the games in recent years leaving the IOC with few choices So in 2017 the IOC decided to do something they’ve never done before by awarding both the 2024 and 2028 games at the same time 2024 went to Paris and the 2028 games went to LA Since they were the only other city interested in hosting at the time Like in the bid for 1984 Cities have grown disinterested in hosting the Olympics “Los Angeles was the savior in 84 and they’re hoping it’ll be a savior again in 28” In the end only time will tell whether the Olympics can regain the credibility its lost So it kind of seems like the Olympics might have to endure a couple more overshot Olympic budgets before can get Los Angeles to be it’s positive example again I mean we look at Tokyo next year and the central government is reported that the games cost will likely reach 25 billion, right? We’re talking about four times the initial projected budget It almost seems like a mystery that cities aren’t putting up a fight to reject the games with all of these costs But with all that said this is the part of the video where we pass the question off to you Does this change your perception of the Olympics in the IOC or no? these are the Responsibility of the individual cities and countries and it’s their fault if they go over and are there also any other benefits or burdens that You’ve seen in your own home countries from the Olympics that we didn’t discuss today anything and everything Let us know in those comments down below with that said thank you so much for watching I appreciate you. If you liked today’s video you want to support the channel? 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100 Replies to “Why The Olympic Bid Process Is Corrupt And How It Majorly Changes Your City…”

  1. ** I like these segments, but once again that background music is VERY distracting. Really makes it difficult to hear the content. **

  2. Beijing made mad cash off of the Olympics, and is still using all of the stadiums and venues to this day. i will probably go to the water cube next week, and any of the people they moved got paid mad cash. all of my father in laws friends sold their apartments there.

  3. I've lived in Tokyo for 15 years. I don't care much for the Olympic games coming next year. It's going to be absolute chaos, I can't get tickets to anything even if I wanted to and I'll pretty much be locking myself away or two weeks while this comes and goes and all the money grabbing ceases.

    That's all the Olympics is these days underneath… a massive, multinational, periodically 4 year, two week cash grab bonanza… and Japan is one of the greediest countries of them all.

  4. In Mexico 1986 Olympic games the government put up taxes on cars to pay for it, they said "it'll only be for this event" they still have it in place…

  5. IMO. The Olympics and college ball go in the same bucket. Sadly, very rich people figured out a long time ago that impressionable youth will do almost anything for some free face time.

  6. I honestly think it would be more cost effective to have an Olympic Island that would host all the games and the hosting country is responsible for theming, staffing, and other things.

  7. 7:40 When someone labels the first arguments in their case against the Olympics as gentrification and more police officers then they aren't going to convince many. These points aren't compelling and will recieve a eyeroll at best in most circumstances. Talking points like this devalue the argument and sound more a seperate agenda than the one you are currently pushing for.

  8. Just curious why the Vancouver 2010 olympics weren’t even mentioned in passing? I was waiting to hear about it but just like every other American investigative report, anything Canadian is completely ignored.

  9. Militarization of the police force is a reason to reject the olympics? Are you kidding me? That guy must be incredibly ignorant to how big the threat of terrorism is at the olympics. Carrying out an attack at the olympics is what terrorist organizations strive for, so police need to be ready to deter those attacks, or stop an attack quickly if one does occur. That is the weakest reason Ive ever heard to reject the olympics. Otherwise, very good and thorough video.

  10. Olympic is uselsss pos crap that need to stay dead. If u want to keep it build it somewhere and reside it every year. Or just play in the dirt peaaant!!!

  11. I hope future hosts learn from long term repercussions in other cities. We should handle such events more careful because it disrupts the city life too much. Maybe spread the event in time and locations? But I am no expert…

    My personal interest in the olympics decreased over the last 25years but that is also because I have alot more options. As a kid I watched probably most sports just because they were the olympics. Today I follow two sports and the olympics are in both not the most prestigious. And most of the times I don't even watch them.

  12. Good info, but that Steve dude seemed less that reputable. Like hella biased. IDK, dude just seemed kinda sketchy.

  13. I think location of the Olympics should be more of a reward of already prosperous things in the area, not for the hope to be prosperous afterwards. Reward a location who already has an infrastructure to support the Olympics and that doesn't really have to divert that much attention to be able to host it.

    Who am I kidding, who has the biggest pocket books? That works for the Olympic committee.

  14. I would be interested to see if there has been proposal from a country(or countries) instead of city to host the game. And spreading the events over a larger area. Example, say United States as a country wanted to put in a bid where they wanted to place the games in the Midwest. Opening and closing ceremonies can be held in a large city like Chicago, sports XYZ are held in Indiana, sports ABC in Ohio, etc. how would that impact the economy of those states? Would it be more beneficial because they wouldn’t have to build as much — particular if they already had a world class facilities, infrastructure and supportive hospitality industry — and this don’t need to go into debt building these things, or having to relocate parts of their community, or putting undue stress on it?

  15. Why is this video bearly popping up for me? I checked your channel yesterday around 5pm ans the only videos listed were the james charles thumbnail video from yesterday and the Dan Berzilan from the day prior. Followed by the Olympic LIGHTSABER DUEL piece and NOT this Olympic curruption video.

  16. Why not just set the bloody event in ONE specific location? Civilization builds up around it instead of being flattened beneath it, people shouldn't have to be displaced – everybody's happy, and everyone gets to simply experience it for the sport.

  17. what is failed to be mentioned here, is the fact of the profits made for individuals and individual companies in the stock market. the Olympic Games have become a community exploitation scheme, to benefit of a small group.

  18. I go to college in Athens, Ga. About an hour outside the city. During the 1996 Atlanta olympics they bussed amazing amounts of homeless people out of Atlanta and into Athens. 22 years later, the homeless population in Athens is still huge.

  19. Constructive criticism: I found the background music distracting. Maybe it was too loud? Or just too noticeable of a tune?

  20. I appreciate you talking about this.

    You think it's a mystery because you fundamentally misunderstand institutional power.

  21. Not my idea. But remember one YouTube vid.
    Set up one permanent candidate city on each continent. Then let the suitable cities compete. 6 for summer and 4 for winter.
    So the infrastructure can be reused.
    The only problem I see is which of the southern continents gets the winter candidate, Oceania or South America.

  22. I don't mind the Olympics but I do find it silly that you can look up MANY abandoned facilities that were built for it. I think at this point in our history the Olympics need to become stationary. If Greece still has a facility for it why don't we put it back in its homeland and make it a money generator for them? This way nothing needs to be built it's all already there. If it is there every single time or maybe somewhere else who knows but this traveling of such an event needs to stop. There has to be a way to make the Olympics feasible as well as sustainable.

  23. I think Last Week Tonight with John Oliver covered this story a couple years ago but only focused on the Rio one from 2016. I didn’t know it’s been like that just about everywhere it’s been though. Or if their story covered it, then I forgot about it. Still, it sounds like it’s a budgeting problem. A easy way to fix that would be to make all participating countries pitch in a small percentage of the cost with the host forking over a majority. It would either kill the games outright or force it to modernize and become marketable because no country is going to pay to play and only receive “glory” and not something physical in return beyond some medals(i.e. money. They will want to make money. Probably through ads and merch).

  24. As a person who loves sports, it makes me sad to see how dysfunctional The Olympics have become… I always enjoyed watching it. It’s so cool to see the world’s most talented athletes going all out.

  25. I disagree with some people asking for set cities for the Olympics. One of the biggest points of the Olympics is that it show not only diversities in countries but cities as well. It would be really boring to always have the US Olympics in the LA when most of the major cities already have the infrastructure to host the Olympics too anyway.

    What we need to change the construction requirements for Olympics. Like we don’t need a new Olympic Stadium and Athlete’s Villages and it could help sport facilities that need renovations. That would severely cut costs and still have the Olympics go around the world.

    Also, there needs to be a third party picking the venues and a large one that could cut down the bribing. The IOC can’t be trusted anymore.

  26. I live in Vancouver, where the 2010 Winter games took place. Yes, there was some tourism boost benefits, but the inconvenience to the citizens was atrocious. I had a Police officer from a completely different Province (not even our region) threaten me with arrest for TOUCHING a fence one day… not just any fence, but the THIRD layer of different security fencing around a place. Many roads were closed, or limited in the way traffic could use them so that IOC vehicles could get places efficiently.
    I lived across the street from a park that is popular down where I lived for homeless people to hang out, and even camp in. For the months leading up to the games, and conveniently thru to just a couple weeks after they ended, it was "under construction" so that tourists didnt see our homelessness problem.
    I LOVED the games being here, because of my love of sports. But the inconvenience to the general public, is NOT worth it. If the IOC, which is worth hundreds of billions of dollars, actually used THEIR money more to make the games happen, I'd be on board for us doing them again. But as things stand right now, I would not welcome them back…. despite all the fun it brought.

  27. The Olympics should be held at the same place every time and that place should be funded by their own money and profits they generate from participation tickets and viewership. This is ridiculous and a waste of money time and resources that we have to keep moving it every four years.

  28. One thing the Olympics does show, is that projects can be built and done quickly if the powerful want to do it. So when politicians balk at things like alternative energy, or increasing funding for science and healthcare, or anything else with the line, "we cant afford it". Know that they are always lying.

  29. If you win the bid (by buying votes or otherwise), as a city it's your responsibility to make the games profitable (or at least not a deficit). If your city can't handle the cost, don't host the Olympics. I understand that this locks a lot of potential host cities out, and I say it's worth that loss. Yeah, it would be great to live in a world where every city turns a profit and flourishes after an Olympics, but that's not reality. We can avoid a lot of the negative impacts of the Olympics if the cities could just afford them. So, to possible host cities around the world: don't put a bid in to win the Olympics if you aren't fairly certain you can afford them.

  30. As a Salt Lake county resident, I think Utah made the best of after Olympic situations. Utah has always been known as a winter sports destination. They repurposed the facilities for public use and training. They may have bought votes, but the area is better for the event.

  31. Compelling and a very eye opening story. This is the type of news that needs to be shown. The corruption of the entire world and the Real People who run it.

  32. I’m not going to lie, the Sydney 2000 Olympics seem to be extremely beneficial, we not have so many great facilities, stadiums, etc at our Olympic Park, as well as the direct economic benefits reported such as jobs, etc.

  33. In Vancouver, the city did very well for itself afterwards and the Olympics event helped develop areas that were previously underappreciated and continue to be developed today. There was also a very large push to expedite the process of putting in a much needed metro that connected downtown to the airport. Previous to that, it was very difficult to reach via transit. Overall good experience!

  34. I live 25 minutes outside of Salt Lake City. As soon as I saw the title of this video, I knew you guys had done your research and that I would be seeing my hometown in this video. Then, it happened to be the first city mentioned. My own cousin got to carry the torch as it came into town. Everything except the extra freeway space that was added in preparation for the Olympics is basically long gone at this point, and the scandal and backlash from the investigations only proved to hurt the heart of the Mormonland. There's a statue scattered here, and a monument scattered there, but that's about it. Saw a person the other day with a jacket from the 2002 olympics in fact, couldn't believe my eyes.

  35. After living through the 2010 Winter Olympics I gotta say the hype is not worth the massive cost and roulette to see if your city makes the money back XD.

  36. Yeah its unrealistic to think that relatively far less developed cites will benefit from having to take on such a massive event. That doesnt mean places like LA that already have these systems in place dont see a significant benefit from the economic influx the games provide.

  37. I am certainly no expert on this topic, but I am a resident of northern Japan; specifically the area affected heavily by the 2011 Tsunami. Many of the people I’ve talked with who live here are upset about the olympics because so much is being put towards refurbishing and rebuilding Tokyo when, at the base of the issue, many homes have been yet to be rebuilt from the damage. That doesn’t speak to the incredible amounts of clean-up and commercial rebuilds still needed.

  38. The claim about cities not fighting against the bids is misleading. The whole reason that LA became the US candidate was because Bostonites let their disdain be known. Boston was the original host city candidate for the US Olympic Committee’s (USOC) bid for the 2024 Olympics but they had a referendum and the people voted against it.

    The USOC still wanted to bid so they were able to LA partly because they did it before. The bidding for the Olympics is getting so unpopular now that they had to choose the next 2 hosts between the two remaining cities for the 2024 bid (Paris and LA). The next three Summer Olympics will all be former hosts (Tokyo 2020, Paris 2024, and LA 2028) and while Tokyo and Paris had it at different economic times (1964 and 1924 [most recent]) it would be interesting to see the differences between the economic costs and benefits. It would also be interesting to see how LA benefits from the extra time it has to get ready.

    While the Olympics is my favorite international sports event, the corruption and bribery will soon make the even obsolete. The only countries that want to bid now are led by dictators who are willing to pay the bribes and bring some positive press. FIFA is also going through this somewhat but the World Cup brings in much more money than the Olympics to a city. I would love to see an African Olympics in my lifetime but until the bidding process is changed and African leaders get their act together (a whole other story), I doubt it will happen.

  39. We have always and will continue to dread any possibility that the Olympic Games would ever come to our city. NO!!!!! The super bowl can suck it too. Debt, traffic jams, security issues, corruptions, annoying

  40. I live in Calgary and voted no for the Olympics when we had our public vote about it. Partly due to the corruption in the IOC (one of my best friends lived in Richmond BC when Vancouver had the 2010 Olympics and the ridiculous corruption that happened there is still mind blowing) and due to how poorly our City Council was planning for the Games. The IOC is very much able to assist cities in paying the ridiculous amounts of money it costs to build new facilities but they don't. As well, most buildings that get built for the Games fall into disuse after which is ludicrous. If a city is going to host a Games and build new facilities they need to be sustainable and useful once the Games are done. Calgary's City Council had no plan for that and I refuse to be part of that shit storm.

  41. The reason why the Polish/Slovakian bid for a Winter Olympics wound up getting shut down was due to the local populous, and even the majority of each country's populations was due to the overall negative impact Olympics have on the people of the region, especially in the long-term. Another main reason was the costs – they were expected to have to pay out the main bulk of all the bills for these Olympic buildings, roads, temporary transit, and so on. The price tags they were expected to foot were despicable. Like Varpem said in the comments here, the tax payers are forced to foot the bills, while the private sector reap the benefits of it.

  42. When the games came to Calgary before in the 80's, thecity came out in the black as far as the financial cost because most of the people involved at all in the setting up and running of the Olympics were volunteers; and the facilities that got built have been used consistently by teams for training and just by the general public since then. They're only now starting to break down. That said the guy saying its about infrastructure is completely right. We pulled out of a bid as one of the last three cities because our country was pushing to demolish and rebuild all the facilities needed which… yeah they would need an update, but they didn't need to start from scratch on a project that would cost so much for not a lot of benefit. The Olympics are just a hassle now. What should happen is each country should have a designated city for it, where the facilities are built and MAINTAINED, and the country overall should share the cost so we're not putting cities in mass amounts of debt and building structures that wont be used after anyway. At least, that's my two cents.

  43. Weird thought: What if a new country was founded to host the Olympics from now on? That way it would stay in one spot and would stop devastating the economies of almost everywhere it's hosted.

  44. perhaps this is foolish, but I want the Olympic community to simply setup a permanent summer Olympic compound in Greece and winter Olympics some where like Switzerland. Make a treaty between governments to help fund this and keep the events neutral territory if/when wars happen.

  45. Bribing for hosting a large event or convention is not new. Although I know the Olympics is pretty much the biggest. I've worked in the tourism sector and contacting hotels/resorts that compete to get a conference to come to their city. They all offer different benefits even paying for travel for event organizers to visit their venue. There are all sorts of completely legal gifts given. I feel like the line between legal and illegal is pretty blurry.

  46. When Vancouver BC Canada hosted the 2010 Olympics it was a moral, economic and social disaster, not just for Vancouver but for all British Columbians. The cost of living skyrocketed. The homeless people in Vancouver were all given bus tickets, ferry tickets and a $50 grocery card, and were all sent over to my town Victoria BC on Vancouver Island… Trippling our homelessness problem, and the associated costs such as funding shelters and soup kitchens, law enforcement and first responders, etc.

    I swear BC is still trying to recover financially.
    And the last time I went to Vancouver the buildings and stadiums were not in use.

    The Olympics cannot survive, the people running the show have run it into the ground. And cities can't afford it with the insane rate of inflation. Most importantly, its bad for their citizens, which should be every city's #1 priority.

  47. The Olympics is an important event for both athletes and the international community; it is worth preserving. However, cost containment is desperately needed. Countries need to stop "outdoing" one another. Build only what is required and what your country can reuse. Also, although I acknowledge the general annoyance experienced by people like my father who could not commute to work during Vancouver 2010, the biggest life disruption is always experienced by the poor, which is often tied up with race. I would love to see a wealthy neighbourhood torn down to make way for a stadium.

  48. It took 30 years for my city to pay off the olympic debt after hosting it… and nearly double the initial price tag. "By the time the Games opened in July 1976, the tally had risen to $1.3 billion. By 2006, when the Olympic debt was finally paid off, the price tag for the adventure would reach about $2.5 billion in capital and interest".
    It was NOT worth it. Today that fucking stadium they made us build is just a giant toilet bowl that barely sees any real use and the fucking "roof" has to be fixed/replaced all the time, so costs keep going up and up and up. Not to mention the structure itself that's cracking in some parts and needs to be repaired too.

  49. "Stepping down" after being accused of corruption is a very weird move. It's like "yea i'm guilty, and my dumb ass thinks an equivalent punishment to corruption is… losing my job?".

  50. In London when they built the stadium they deliberately put it in a place that was poor and becoming an urban wasteland. It hiked house prices up, and generally gentrified the area to fuck so people had to leave. The stadium was also put where an old warehouse used to be that was doing pretty well, I know people who lost their job because of the Olympics. It’s an international circle jerk with human cost

  51. Slightly disappointing to see how one sided this video was. London 2012 made a profit and was regarded as a massive success here in the UK, yet it was not mentioned once in a video which tried to discuss whether the Oylympics can been successful/profitable in modern times…

  52. Thanks Phil…. FYI this one did not make it into the recommended nor subscription threads… Everyone loves #corruption

  53. Why not say that Athens is where it was founded, and every country that participates pays for the upkeep of facilities in Athens, and then every summer olympic is just done there. It would keep the costs down and provide well managed facilities in ONE city that athletes just travel to (like most athletes have to do anyways). People can rejoice in the olympics where they came from.
    Not sure how to handle Winter olympics but surely a similar thing could be done.

  54. Olympics are bad to most cities with some exceptions, most notably, Los Angeles in 1932 and 1984.

    The 2028 Games are not using tax money and are not building any new stadiums or an Olympic Village which is where the bulk of the budget normally goes.

    Paris 2024 I am worried for, and Beijing 2022…. LA 2028 I am not terribly worried about TBH.

    I think LA will do fine, stay on budget and give the Olympics the much needed break they are looking for.

  55. Hi! my name is Jason Reid, and in 1987 i was born in the city of calgary. The winter olympics (1988) were held in the city of Calgary. Shortly after that my parents marriage went to shit. My then pregnant with my brother, mother moved back in to her parents house in canmore. After that we were placed in housing used as part of the athlete village while canmore experienced a Boom of Tourism and real estate. Canmore became a town of athletes i attended high school with several olympians. the population went from 300 (ish) too 13,992 in 2016. Because of the olympics happening in my town i was able to grow up and live in canmore with my grandmother great grandmother and several uncles all in the town. (the housing built for the olympians were used as low income housing) Corruption and cheating aside the olympics were a good thing for me.

    Id like to go on to say i wish there were no corruption or cheating as i remember many children wanting to grow up to be olympians this is an organization that i feel should be squeaky clean.

  56. We all know how fucked up cc/subtitles are on YouTube but please wtf is that at 0:07 – 0:13 ?? especially cause the rest of the video is all good but that "word" makes no sense whatsoever lol

  57. It doesn't surprise me at all that there is corruption. It's as much as fact as saying the sun will rise every morning. As for cities, being in Toronto, I had heard discussions of Toronto wanting to put in a bid because they wanted the income that it would potentially generate. Our city doesn't even have the infrastructure in place to transport people to and from home and work. Our transit situation has actually become an acceptable excuse as to why we are late. You're telling me that you're about to shove another several hundred of thousands of people on that thing? No. Our roads and city layouts don't work. People around me started saying that if the Olympics came, they'd move out. Imagine, people are willing to relocate themselves for a two-week long event because we know that the construction, the disruption would be too much to even function. I am all for having the Olympics since it is one of the only times the world will come together. But, not at the detriment to the cities they go to. I don't believe Toronto's story is unique in this case. It has become nothing but peacocking. If cities did what LA did and use facilities already available, then I'd be all for it. But if they can corrupt people into giving them their vote, who's to say that there aren't people corrupting them asking for the contract to build those massive stadiums?

  58. Sounds entirely too much like commercial sports in the USA; A bunch of rich white men who don't get it paying peanuts to athletes so the rich can make several metric tons of money to keep for themselves.

  59. The games should never be hosted by any city that doesn't already have the infrastructure in place, from here on out. It's a waste of money, and the athletes barely get paid, if at all. This benefits no one but the IOC and other high-society/prestige people.

  60. Is it me, or is this "Nolympics" movement just pushing a thinly-veiled anti-authority agenda? The frequent use of "comrades" on their website only threw up some red flags in my mind.

  61. These news shows are fantastic. Great job by the staff. This is almost broadcast TV quality… but better.

  62. Honestly I feel like cities and governments can and would step in to prevent the games from happening by refusing funding if it really hurt their cities that much. I find it hard to believe that the IOC "Oligarchs" really have their countries' governments by the balls. To me, Ducey's points sounds like they're part of a narrative created to push socialist ideology.

  63. Guys, the reason the video didn't talk about the London 2012 Olympics is because the UK is one of the wealthiest countries in the world. We're looking at how it can potentially damage low-income nations. It's important to talk about because the Olympics are supposed to be able to be hosted by anyone. The whole point of the Olympics is that the government gains income from new infrastructure, new businesses, and more tourism. It should be rotated to the lower-income countries in order to help them. That's why it rotates every time. It's not supposed to be held by the same country every year, because that only allows that one country to gain income. The problem is that the IOC is corrupt, so those lower-income countries are not able to host it, or if they do they don't wind up making money, and that defeats the purpose of having the Olympics in the first place. There is no point in highlighting London 2012 because they didn't need to host the Olympics. They obviously took the opportunity because it would easily give them growth as they can more easily sustain any extra costs, and wind up making the Olympics into a net positive for their country. Wouldn't it be more beneficial to the world if, instead of giving it to London, a low-income country could have held it? Too bad the corruption of the IOC prevents that from being a possibility when it would inevitably wind up costing the low-income country more than they could gain from it. That's the problem being discussed. That's why it's such a bad thing. Yes, the London 2012 Olympics were great, but we could have helped a low-income country if the IOC wasn't so goddamn corrupt.

  64. I see a lot of comments only reinforcing the belief that the entire process is corrupt, but nobody proposing any solutions. I want to propose a solution, but it's a really complicated issue. To start, I think we all have to understand what the Olympics stand for. The Olympics should be an opportunity for a city and country to attract tourism. The US and the UK manage to do this every time they get to host the Olympics, so we know it's possible. They wind up getting a net positive return on hosting. That is the important part: new businesses, new infrastructure, government income. Among all of these are the keys to a thriving society. Understanding this, you can see why we need to rotate the Olympics. Restricting it to only 4 countries only allows those 4 countries to grow in power. Ideally, we'd want to see third-world and impoverished countries hosting the Olympics, so they can earn money to better development and hopefully see continual growth.

    That said, we'd have to make it easier for the other countries to host the Olympics, which isn't in the best interest of the IOC because they likely won't make a profit. We could all support the country by giving them resources, but that would be relying on other countries to also help, and depending on how much they want to help, the Olympics could just never happen if everyone decides it's not in their best interest. All countries want to make a profit from the Olympics, or at the very least they don't want to be negatively effected. So giving the host of the Olympics the resources would cost those countries money, and would have a negative impact. Another problem is that the Olympics should pay for itself, but it no longer does because the cost of infrastructure is just too much. The solution to this, however, is a more accurate estimate of how much it would cost to host the Olympics. If the estimate is more accurate, then the lower-income countries can be more confident in their cost analysis, and choose to be more risky with their money in return for a high payoff. The IOC isn't producing accurate estimates, however, and this is the crux of the issue.

    So how do we get the IOC to start producing more accurate estimates? Well, we know we have the technology to do so, so why are they not adequately using the technology? Because they are corrupt and want to produce lower estimates in the hopes that a country will take it and the IOC can get a higher kickback. How do we solve this problem? I say liquidating the IOC and starting an entirely new IOC seems to be the way to go here. It's not that easy, but it seems like it's necessary at this point. Form a new IOC with the intention to have more accurate estimates will likely result in less corruption at least. Furthermore, at this point we have two options: indict the IOC with corruption, or wait for LA to host the Olympics in the hopes that they can prove the cost of the Olympics isn't nearly as much as it is, in the hopes that other countries will then pick it up. The latter is less likely to happen, but it's the best chance we have unless we want to formally go through the process of proving the IOC to be corrupt and finding new people to do their job. Suffice to say that if none of this goes the way it should, then we could see the end of the Olympics.

  65. The cost to taxpayers is a huge thing. I think the countries involved are too build happy. When Boston, MA was approached about hosting the Olympics they wanted to use their universities' stadiums instead of building new stadiums but was told to build new and in turn decided they did not want the Olympics. Why not let cities showcase their universities and the university grounds. Why not just reuse old Olympic stadiums?

  66. It's not just the IOC. Look at FIFA and what the football(soccer) world cup does to cities, for example the 2010 world cup in South Africa. Lots of slums were demolished to build new stadiums that are barely used now for a shot ton of money, and nobody cared about the people they displaced. Sports events like this are an all around shit show.

  67. Yes, corruption is rampant throughout the Olympics. And yes, it does tend to cost more than you get back. Although, with some smarter management, I feel the economic toll could be resolved.

    But, I don't know if I like the idea of a world without the Olympics. It's one of the few times where it feels like the world isn't at each others throats. And I feel like it's a symbol of unity that we desperately need going forwards.

  68. i have always said, take an island and call it olympic island- and build everything on it
    then always hold the games there..
    it seems easier to me

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