Experience with Sports
That end though… hahaha. I think thats a cool bike, but i would never have one.
J'abonde dans ton sens ! La MP3 est chère, ne paie pas de mine et n'a vraisemblablement aucune valeur ajoutée par rapport aux deux-roues qui sont généralement plus agiles et plus rapides ! Par contre, je dirais que c'est un choix idéal pour les automobilistes en quête de liberté citadine même si, il faut l'avouer, elle est assez lourde, encombrante et sujette à de vibrations… En gros, ce n'est pas une attrape-minettes ! (Ou attrape-couilles, c'est selon…)
Now testride the Yamaha Tricity
Comme tu l'as dit, la 3ème roue n'apporte qu'une chose pour ma part : un marché au potentiel énorme ! Et ça les businessman l'ont bien vu et on décroché le gros lot ! Piaggio se fait de c**illes en platine avec son MP3 Mais je suis contre ce genre de scooter ! La formation de 7h ne sert à rien et ces personnes qui roulent en 3 roues sont de vrai danger pour eux-même et les autres… Mais bon qui fera changer cette loi ? Le lobbying doit être tellement important et les revenus tellement astronomique que personne ni fera rien…V
Not a fan
Love the ending ^.^ Lane filtering seems difficult with the agility being restricted third wheel and slow on acceleration with the weight
great video of you, as always. but these are three wheels the worst thing I've ever driven. I work at a company selling these vehicles sometimes. just is not my world. nothing beats two wheels ??
Wow plus de la moitié des ventes des MP3 sont en France ! C'est parce qu'on a du mal à conduire les deux-roux ? ( sarcasme )
Bonsoir Mr Kiddo, I've seen a lot of these in France and just can't get my head round why someone would buy one. They seem very unstable and a bit too wide to move in and out through heavy traffic. Anyway you're a braver man than me to test-drive one! I like the Tchaikovsky at the end, it's a shame it's about the defeat of Napoleon in Russia! A bientot.
I've just found out vlogger 'Royal Jordanian' has had his 'Nuda' stolen (8 Aug 2015). If anyone knows of one being sold let him know, also go to his You Tube and give him some support. merci, bonne chance.
La fin de ta vidéo résume tout 🙂
Salut super vidéo très intéressante ! Tu pourrais faire le même avec le Peugeot metropolis RS? pour comparé .
PS :Désolé si ça a était demander 100 x
hello, why don't you just talk. At least when you are walking around the bike? 🙂
petite Audi R8 qui passe au calme a 6:30. et le mp3 se vend bien en France mais principalement a Paris pour tout ce qui est coursier (plein de place ) et le fait que on peut le prendre avec le permis auto. sinon pour papi qui vit en rase campagne il garde sa 103.
La fin de la vidéo est TOP ! Cette musique et la conclusion + 100 !
My girlfriend says that this is not a bike, this is a trycicle!! Jaja! But it a beautiful bike. Bona nit Mr Kiddo !!
Lol great ending
Visiblement ce scooter demande un temps d'adaptation, je veux dire plus qu'une moto. Merci pour cet essai, je n'avais pas réellement entend parler des côtés négatifs qui tu indiques. Bon en même temps, les scooters ne m'intéressent pas trop hein
Il est bien ce final, ça me donne quelques idées pour plus tard 🙂
PS : faut que je retourne en concession, mes rétros ne sont pas aussi bien réglés 😉
Once I sit on this ugly thing, but the footbreakpedal is on a bad place, so I do the real Motorcycle-Licence :-D.
lol the applause at 3:32!
10.000 balles ?! =o pour ce prix là, autant passer le permis moto, s'acheter un équipement correct, acheter un (scooter) 2 roues, et il te reste encore des sous de côté ! Et tu n'en parles pas dans ton test, mais 265kg, avec un mono (connu pour consommer à crever ces engins là) de 40 petits chevaux, ca doit consommer plutôt pas mal non ? surtout en ville, obligé de mettre la poignée dans le coin tout le temps pour lancer la bête, non ? Quand je vois déjà la "difficulté" (bon, on se comprend, 7 secondes le 0 – 100, ca va) à lancer ma bandit, qui fait le même poids, mais qui a le double de cheveaux…..En tout cas, très intéressant ce test !
OMG ce sont les mêmes rétros que la Shiver 😀 Merde ! ^^Sinon excellent j'ai adoré la fin !
Merci pour ce test MrKiddo. Et très belle conclusion au test^^Mëme si tu sembles dire que ce scoot est très facile à conduire, en visionnant la vidéo, j'ai l'impression que t'es vraiment pas à ton aise tout du long. Peut être est ce l'angle de la caméra? En tout cas, quand tu es sur une moto, c'est vraiment une autre chose: agile sûr dynamique. Ici, ça semble horriblement pataud, pas sécurisant… Vraiment une drôle d'impression au point où j'avais peur pour toi. Bizarre… Vivement que tu reviennes sur ton fidèle destrier 🙂
Thanks for the review. I was always wondering what was the French attraction to those 3 wheelers? "Not special permit required :)" Will never work here, when a bike license is only $20. Loved your video ending, haha
Diferent bike, good review. I like that girl in the well adjusted mirrors LOLI think that riding this bike on the road needs some time to master the tecnic. Don't like the exhaust sound!Cheers!
Great review. Much truth in it.
I had a Aprillia Scarabeo 500 Light, which has the same engine as the MP3, but is much faster (and lighter).
I now drive a Yamaha Tricity and do not notice the extra wheel in front. It feels the same like the Scarabeo, only with less power. One big difference is the better control you have when driving on a roundabout or on bad road surface. It is much more stable then on a two wheeler. @CagerOnTwoWheels noticed that also. Checkout his review on the Tricity (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2fnEmWQ7so).
I also tested the Quadro 350 scooter. Way more stable than the MP3, but those hydraulics feel strange. Also the scooter had some electrical issues.
Je déteste ce truc….j'en dirais pas plus au vu des éléments cité ci-dessus :
Besoin que du permis auto + une formation de 7h à 2 balles (qd on voit le reportage de 90 minutes enquêtes dessus d'ailleurs ça me fait doucement rire –' )
–> Donc en gros ; des personnes (parfois des mecs de bureau en costard cravate, qui ont une formation plus qu'insuffisante vu l'utilisation qu'ils en font (pour gagner du temps donc, car bien entendu c'est le but). Et on y a foutu 3 roues pour les rassurer (psychologique … effet placebo) pck ce sont des vrais quiches (dans la majorité bien sûr, je ne vais pas mettre tout le monde dans le même sac) => j'en ai vu un une fois devant moi, y a pas besoin de mettre les pieds au sol, malgré ça la personne était tellement pas assuré et paniquée, qu'elle avait les 2 jambes sorties en mode grenouille –')
+ d'ailleurs dans ce fameux reportage de 90' enquêtes…la meuf arrive qd même à ce casser la gueule avec –' à mourir de rire…. un vrai gag quand on sait que certaines auto école si tu racontes un bobard ou encore plus simplement, que tu leur files la tune, il te délivre l'attestation sans la formation et point barre… LOL
Ennnnnnnnnnnnfin bref ^^'. Merci pour ta vidéo quand même ça fait tjrs drôle et c'est marrant d'avoir le ressenti d'un motard là-dessus
ahaha bah tu vois tu t'es pas fait prier XD super conclusion LOL. Quand j'ai vu le prix je me suis dit que t'as conclusion était juste parfaite !! la meilleur que j'ai vu tout ce sens caché ahaha ça veut tout dire ^^
Those mirrors really were PERFECTLY adjusted…… 😀 This one's an interesting piece of machinery, though, I'd love to try it, but I wouldn't want to own it. 🙂
La conclusion est tout ce qu'il y a à retenir ! ;))
I'm glad I watched this some very good points, thankyou.
completly wrong review.i own a mp3 500 lt sport and the handling is amazing at all speeds.miles more grip in poor conditions too.poor brakes??? the brakes are fantastic.you almost fly over handlebars if u pull too much.i agree the roll lock is useless unless the ground is smooth.i have dr pulley 17g rollers and a fuzzy washer in mine and it does 100kmh in 5.5 sec and does 165kmh top speed.read MCN magazine review…far far better
depends on your riding exp mate.ive ridden a lot of bikes and scooters o er the years.i got mine 4 weeks ago and ive already done 2000 miles.it handles better then any scooter ive ridden.once you get used to the slightly heavier front you can throw it about like a 50cc.all depends on your experience i guess.this is the 1st review ive seen that slates the handling and brakes.i read a lot of reviews before buying one and every magazine praised the handling and brakes.you really need to ride it for a few days to get the feel of it really.i think the fault is your rider skill more then the bike mate sorry but your in the minority on this one
I would of liked to end the video by setting light to it, watch it go up in flames lol!Terrible to ride, glad you made it through without injury.What concerns me is, some car drivers will think it handles like a motorbike! The price is crazy, like the slow speed wobble.RSMF-RIMr B
I wish my French were half as good as your English!
About the machine though…
You mentioned handling a couple of times and said it's not as agile as a regular bike and is only more stable up to around 40 KPH.I ride a 650cc 2-wheeler but have thought about the biggest of the MP3 range as I think they are cool and I get pain in my left hand from using the clutch a lot in town.Even so, it seems that you would not suggest on of these for me (?)I live in Japan so an MP3 would be an expensive option here, as it is not a Japanese bike.
I would have liked to see some 'real' cornering and testing of the handling, but thank you for the review.
so about £8000 for that xO wow, an R125 is only £4450 and that is 1000x better looking 😮 wow, holy fuck. I think these guys might be laughing all the way to the bank haha
Parc de Sceaux BRAAAAA
on vient de passer un nouveau cap avec le quadro 4 😀
I think the test rider misses the point of the 3 wheels, its not just to make a stable foot off the ground stop, its also for traction on different surface conditions and levels. Other than that its a good test ride!
Good, informative review. Thanks.
Good honest review. I can relate to both sides of the story. I ride the MP3 now for more than a year and really grown to love it. But….last year i also wanted to get a motorcycle license. Why? Because i got addicted to the freedom of moving through traffic on a "balance-vehicle". And all the things they teach you can be applied one-on-one on the Mp3. I can imagine that unexperienced riders can be a real danger. As for me, for years i have ridden 50cc scooters to work, and i have my car licence since the stone-age (1987) 😉 so traffic wise the motorccylce exam was easy.
I now own a Kawasaki Versys 650 and my beloved Piaggio Mp3 (originally sold in Paris, then imported to Holland, hence her name "Parisienne"). The Versys feels much more secure and rigid on the highway, the ride is indeed more agile and the seating position is superior not to mention the power delivery and acceleration.However, because of the practicality, the fact that the Mp3 is not your everyday scooter here in Holland and the fact that i have gotten to know many other MP3 riders will make me keep her.
Ne faites jamais confiance absolue au roll-lock,gardez le pied prêt à éviter la chute.En effet,on peut,surtout si on est fatigué,mal le manipuler,mais en plus (rare,mais ça m'est arrivé une fois) le capteur peut avoir une panne(deux chutes l'une après l'autre à l'arrêt,devant tout le monde,la honte) Get your foot ready to stop falling,it can happen ,rarely,that the sensor of the roll-lock system is out of order,and also ,when tired,a bad handling of the controller and falling (the shame).Par ailleurs,40 petits chevaux en frisant la demi-tonne (avec chargement et passagère),c'est quand même pas bezef,surtout sur autoroute…mais bon,ça le fait quand même pas trop mal,c'est déjà ça.Et puis trois roues dont deux petites,c'est moins stable que deux grandes à haute vitesse,mais plus à vitesse lente,et de toutes façons plus stable que deux petites …
Merci pour le test mais le conducteur n'a pas du bien comprendre toute l'utilité des 3 roues ..
in reply to a couple of comments. …The fact that it can be ridden on a car licence was the main reason I bought mine a year ago and it is brilliant. ..I had years of experience on a 125 so I am not a newcomer to biking. ..I would say if you are thinking of getting one to take some training if you are not confident. ..
very nice review
My pleasure 😉
is the acceleration en top speed of the 500cc realy similar to the 250cc one, like you mention in the video??
I'm considering buying one of these, as I'm completely unexperienced about motorcycles. For a new user like me, do you think it is a wise choice? I'm serious considering this one, because it rains a lot in my home town (Lisbon). Do you think it's safer than a 2 wheeler in the rain? I'm otherwise considering a 2 wheeler – a VSTROM 650, they have a similar price over here. Thanks
Scooters are fun but too expensive to buy and service e because of the plastic which must be removed to service much of the points
Nice and honest review. I have a 2013 Mp3 500 Business White Pearl in Brasil, Rio de Janeiro, for more than 3 years. We need Motorcycle licence to ride it.
well made video
thanks. your review helped me a lot!
on peut wheel avec ou pas ? LOL
ok video, but I think your too quick to judge the stability over 25mph and say that the third wheel is useless. I've got an MP3 & also 2 'regular' scooters. When cornering at 50+ MPH on the MP3 (especially in bad weather) I'm eternally grateful for the 3rd wheel! I've ridden over county roads full of horse manure with out a problem..filtering is great on the mp3, I find that car drivers actually make space for me – sometimes more out of curiosity than courtesy though!And the brakes? I've always found them astounding, not sure what was wrong with your test model..
Sound quality can be better
my dad is about to buy it because he had an accident with the old 125cc version, a car bumped him and he thinks that because he had this big tractor it saved his life (he just broke some ribs by falling)…how can I explain to him that for 10 THOUSAND euros this is a fraud….he says it's stable with abs comfortable bla bla bla but, no…
Perspective from the U.S. where Piaggio just barely survives within the more popular realm of Vespa Scooter dealerships. Only 500 cc version available over here, but previous version, we had 250, 400 and 500. I went on a ride with someone who had the previous version of an MP3 500 or could have been 400. Those had 12" front wheels; the new ones have 13" front wheels. He said that design absolutely just chewed up the front wheels; lasting no more than 5,000 miles, and that was a huge complaint and so he was looking for something different so he could keep riding and stay out of the shop for tires. Not sure if the bigger wheel/tire combination helps in that regard, but I'm sure tens-of-thousands of French folks know about how that's worked out.At the time I had a Piaggio BV350 two-wheel scooter. Better scooter and better value than any Vespa model; none of which get that newly-designed 330 cc that's in the Piaggio BV (Beverly for the rest of the world). Mine had 33 hp and 21 peak foot lb torque for what that's worth; mine cost at or about $5,700 MSRP; his was at or about $10,000. A got about 67 mpg in warm weather, and even tough I don't own it today, I still feel like it's one of the best all-around, highway capable scooters on the market in between the very expensive maxi scooters and very limited smaller scooters. I'd choose the BV350 still today over the Honda Forza 300 and Sym 300 and Vespa 300 and Kymco 300 Downtown, with the Downtown being second place due to it's large front fairing giving that Burgman-like weather protection. The MP3 500 rider got around 50-55 mpg though he is a bigger guy than me. He had more built in storage, but I had quite a bit too. I had better overall performance, because my scooter weighed only 395 pounds. Soon after that Honda came out with the CTX700 motorcycle with a 670 parallel twin with 44 peak foot pounds of torque (rated; not at the wheel; more like 41 at the wheel) with an estimated 64 mpg and a small fairing. I love mid-range power as a former diesel car owner and absolutely hate high revving performance, so this was just what I had been waiting for in a ride. I traded the scooter for this great machine in one heartbeat and have never looked back. Now I get 76 mpg commuting on a mid-sized motorcycle with much less prospect of shop time and much greater wear life on tires; standard chain and sprocket as opposed to all that expensive, complicated CVT stuff that I could have been looking at as a highway commuter, commuting a few thousand miles per year. I feel I have the mentality of most scooter riders who ride for practicality + fun, instead of only fun and impressing others, which is why motorcycles come out the way they do in today's market. But some of the newer Honda models are the exception and is why a scooter-minded person can end up with a motorcycle that can have efficiency and service advantages over scooters when engineered for practicality. It's just that we don't see a lot of that in the market. I can think of two other models today, from two other manufacturers; there may be more: Suzuki SV650; BMW GS650. Practical, useful, some value and fun; but absolutely exceptions. BMW F800 GT would also make the list if it weren't so expensive. Great powerful power train with mpg as high as 60.Now a Honda 3-wheeler with the 670 cc parallel twin with engineering that makes stable riding more intuitive than stopping the MP3. That would be the best ride ever and that would make me and my wife riding partners.
I can only presume you have a bike licence and have actually riden other bikes? Over 40 years I've been riding bikes, and, after riding an LT 500 I found it very stable and safe to ride a all speeds.The slow speed to stop locking mechanism is excellent in traffic although I've been told over use can lead to steering notch.On a test track I've riden to 98 mph and at this speed I felt more safe than my Kwaka 400, this I believe would be to the 3rd centrifugal force of the 3rd wheel.I would like to see a geared version of this bike !Perhaps with a bit more riding of the 500 before giving a slight demeaning report would be more accurate? But, as I do not know you I maybe incorrect, if so, I apologise.
dvla twice dvsa once ask the police (online) once . all said yes sir you can drive/ride the mp3 250cc tricycle without test orcbt, now this is why i bought the bike, on my car licence passed on 8/1/74 i am 62 years old passed @ 20/21there are a lot of barrack room lawyers so i am legaly riding a piaggio mp3 250 cc 2006/7
hi. have u tested the xsr900?
What about riding it in winter? Would it make a difference having 2 front wheels in case of treacherous icy conditions on the road? What is your opinion?
test it on a track its very stable in cornering
Parc de sceaux ?
So the best option so far for a 3-wheeled vehicle is still a Morgan.
Great ending! hahaha!
I've had my 2007 MP3 in the States and liked the maxi scooters, but always found the front end a bit bouncy and unstable at higher speeds. With the MP3's heavier front, that it gone and the ride is totally comfortable for me. I like the review, but you really should have tried the locking trick on some smooth pavement first. 🙂
Third is is not "useless." You forgot about more rubber on the road.
a scooter with 40 hp and similar top speed as a 250cc motorcycle ? don't you need a motorcycle license for it then?
Found a low mileage one here in the U.S. $3,000
I want the Quadro 4D but the prices of these :/Nice vid tho.. It deserves more likes and less dislikes
Has anyone tried one in snow and/or ice?
I'd rather a PX 150 blowing smoke on everyone behind me. Long live two smoke.
Wel i bought one used for 5000 and it safes a lot in money then buying a motorcycle otherwise me and my girlfriend have to get a motorlicense and that wil cost me 3000 euro and now i buyed one and just drive with car license
Great review, thanks very much. Answered all my questions 🙂
Brakes better and more stable in the wet
it doesn't make sense for someone with a motercycle licence? u think i feel confortable with a 2 wheel when driving at 120km/h in the rain?
Lol le type qui a pas encore compris que d'avoir trois roue c"est surtout pour permettre à ceux qui ont que le permis auto de rouler avec se genre de machine mais lol c'est pour contourner une loi êt sa leurs Perret de toucher plus de monde ???
Help please ! Can i press and hold the shock lock button into lock position before i come on a full stop rather than clicking it once after the light comes on ?
With owning a MP3 expect to have large bills with changing steering bearing and throttle cable
I'm looking at getting one of these for a few months. I've severed my right Achilles' tendon and can't drive. I am thinking of either a small, light, scooter or one of these. The weight is a concern (I've ridden gold wings etc) because of a lack of strength in my right leg. Not sure which is best. Locally used they all seem to be 8-10 years old so that's a concern too.
…absolutely true… over-complicated with zillions of wear and tear bushes and joints…it’s just a comercial legal strategic adaption to vehicle laws making it possibly to use legally without proper motorcycle training and skill for a car license holder…
Try an emergency brake in a turn or even straight but with a bit of sand in the street… or worst situation with rain.. if you have one wheel you fel down immediately with mp3 you never fel down. Obviusly if you go just 40kph is like the one wheel… try to bend in high speed and tell me if you feel safe with 2wheels or better with one wheel in front…. i bet you feel safe with 2 front wheels.
Really wanting one of these
600 lb is insane. My honda helix ways in at 350 lb
A want to sell my Piaggo Mp 3 12.000 Miles year 2013
Since there seems to be a question about the credentials in terms of bikes ridden of people commenting on this review let me state mine before I comment. I live in Australia so some of the bikes I talk about may not be available where you live. The first bike I ever rode belonged to my brother. It was a Russian made thing called a Voshkod – it was a pretty awful bike – that was about 1970. In 1971 I owned and Honda CB 250 which was a much better bike. Moving forward to the 21st century in the last 10 years I have owned a Yamaha XV1100 – a big bore cruiser. I used to commute to work a round trip of 200kms on open roads and highways. After putting 100,000kms on it I traded it for a Kawasaki Voyager 1700 – another big bore cruiser which I also used for commuting the same distance. In the last 2 years of work I put close to 70,000kms on it and since retiring 5 years ago have added almost another 20,000kms. Just before I retired I bought for my wife, in the hope that she would get the bug and we could go motorcycling together in retirement, a Piaggio MP3 400 (the slightly smaller version of what is being reviewed here). She took some mandatory pre-rider training and became convinced she wouldn't pass and the instructors made some disparaging comments about the safety of the 400 so after a few months of it not being used I gave it to my son. He soon mastered the bike having never ridden a motorbike before got his permit, rode the Piaggio a few times a decided he wanted a bigger cruiser so it was sold. I will return to the Piaggio in a moment but I need to explain that I also own a Suzuki Burgman 650 Executive – a large bore scooter. I feel I have some credentials in terms of bikes I have ridden and kilometres I have travelled on them. As I explained above I bought the Piaggio 400 for my wife to learn on – the extra wheel and the locking front wheels were the attractions. Big size scooters are made with the option of touring as well as the daily commute. The Yamaha TriCity is great for the city commute or even the pizza delivery but would be impractical for the open road. I felt the 400 would have enough grunt to keep up on the open road (in Australia the national speed limit is 110km/h) and would also serve for a quick trip to the shops. I thought the 400 would not be too heavy (for my wife) whereas the 500 might. when I bought the bike I rode home from the dealer, a trip of 200kms, on a two lane main highway used by many large trucks. I found it had plenty of power to hold its own at the national speed limit and if you didn't keep an eye on the speedo your speed could easily creep up well beyond that. The twist and go transmission made it easy to get off the mark and get going – I'm not overly concerned about 0-60km/h times but I recognise that this is a measure of how quickly you can accelerate out of danger. The brakes worked well a disc on each front wheel and a single disc at the back all operated by levers on the handle bars. The Piaggio was a 2004 model, I can't recall whether it had ABS or not but the Burgman I own does and it makes a difference. I never had a concern about the stability yof the bike at high or low speed. There were times on uneven road surfaces when I was grateful for the extra wheel with its contact patch it meant I didn't have to change direction as I knew the other wheel up front would hold the road. The locking mechanism took a few goes to get used to but in truth I rarely used it except to show off at lights or stop signs. There was plenty of under seat storage but none in the dash areas whereas the Suzuki has 3 storage compartments in the dash. Instrumentation and warning lights covered everything the rider needed including a fuel gauge. One criticism was of the useless sports bike screen – it provided no wind protection at high speed on the open road where you need it. I would recommend the Piaggio MP3 400 but in truth if you were planning to do lots of open road riding the 500 might be a better option if you seek the 3 wheels. I don't think many were sold in Australia. I recall seeing lots of them in Paris both Piaggio and other brands. They were thought to be good for cobbled inner city streets.
An old video, but still really useful critique of the MP3, Thanks+++
Couldn't have been easy trying to engage the tilt lock on a cobble stone road.
I just got my motorcycle license and I was considering this option, but in light of the comments I will reconsider. Thanks for the thoughtful focus on the three wheel advantage, or non-advantage.
Parc de sceaux .. jhabite bourg la reine
You have not achieved any fun with the mp3 because you have not driven it fast on roads like climbing a mountain with 180 degrees turn for instance.. There you would be whitness of no need of decreasing speed to less than 20km to drive in that turn..there you would be whitness of driving on those turns with speeds up to 60 km/h drifting from the middle of your lane to the side of your lane almost off the road..other than that nice video.
How about reviewing the updated MP3 300hpe to compare?
I think the front wheels should be bigger. As big as the 300. And why the narrower stance?
Coge rotondas con asfalto mojado,alcantarillas,pintura y baches y después opina…A velocidades legales es lo mejor en seguridad y confort,ojalá haya algún vídeo de alguien que la ponga al límite,así sabríamos todos de lo que es capaz un triciclo de éste tipo…
Im planning to buy 250cc piaggio mp3.ia it possible to ride piaggio 250cc on autostrada(highway)? From france to italy??
I HAVE ONE AND IT VERY VERY STABLE THE FASTER I GO..SLOW OR FAST BTW
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