Chiropractic Sports Medicine

Chiropractic Sports Medicine

Tongue to your right side. Hold that. Good. To your left side. Good Put your left thumb right there. Hold that. Leave your breath all the way out for me. Good leave your breath out. Good job. Just like that. Good. Bring this arm up. Hold that. There we go. Let this elbow bend. Hold that strong. Good. Hold toward this shoulder. Good. Real straight. Hold toward this hip. Ok. I’ll come back to that in a second. Turn this in and put this right up against your ribs. Hold in strong for me. Good. Do the backstroke way back. That’s pretty natural. You should be a swimmer. When you’re done cycling. That was pretty good. Let’s see this one. Is that related to neck or back? That one’s neck and also has to do with liver stuff. Which might explain why you’re feeling cold. It’s cause the liver is your chemical factor. Right? I’ve been sick for two and half weeks, since Bejing. Yeah. Well, if you are oriented toward some supplements, we’ll get you something that ‘ll help. I took like, remember the last time I was here, remember echinacea, and all that okra stuff, I took that for a while. Good. Good. Take both shoulders down toward your hips. There you go. Leave your arms down. We’re gonna travel this way. Leave your breath out. It’s all good. Crack. Right there. Good job, You know what’s wield. I got these little poison ivy looking dots, almost like blisters on my hand. Aha. It just showed up out of nowhere. Right Have you ever heard of that before? Yes. Something’s irritating the gut, which is skin. See the skin covers the inside, covers the outside. Okay. So we’re eating something that’s irritating the skin inside here. And the skin outside, it shows up. Let me have you reach up toward the ceiling.

98 Replies to “Chiropractic Sports Medicine”

  1. I'm not making any such association between what I am doing and ophthalmology, that was your line. And neither am I going to endeavor to rebut your statement in this little box, but rather I simply wished to inform you that the laser light will pass through clothes and will have an effect on tissues, including your eyes should you wish to challenge it. And, if one wishes to be knowledgeable, stating ones disbelief without admitting ones ignorance is a poor method to attain that goal. Experience?

  2. You're talking out of you ass. Comparing what's done in the video as having the same effect as a laser or light into the eye, an organ that is influenced, sensitive to, an dependent upon light is totally ridiculous. Last time I checked, the muscular/skeletal structure does not have rods, cones and lenses like the eyes do. Also, your reference to her spotting fingers being related to her "gut"? Absolute conjecture with zero clinical basis from an ignoramus. Just pop joints and shut up.

  3. Well, you clearly have an opinion, and it would seem a little knowledge, too. But a little knowledge can be dangerous, causing one to go off half-cocked and make stupid claims about things one does not know. In this forum, I enjoy responding to people's authentic inquiries about the nature of what is shown, and more. But it is not adequate to respond to an ignoramus who remains stuck in outdated ideas and conjecture. My guess is that you have read some physiology, but fail to grasp its meaning.

  4. Au contraire, mon frere. We are not doctors of medicine, to be sure, but that is not the only kind of doctor. But, why so hostile? Did someone put cayenne in your oatmeal this morning? What can you tell me about chiropractors, that is factual, to support your mean-spirited, and bigoted, remark?

  5. It's only cheating if I were being tested on my ability to effect change with my hands. Both methods will effect some sort of change, and the idea in the clinic is to match the change with the patient. But, as a student, I was not allowed to use the instrument until: a) I demonstrated ability with my hands, and b) I demonstrated proper use of the instrument. If I had to choose only one, I would prefer my hands, but I do appreciate the things the instrument can do, since it is much faster than I.

  6. Come on, the sound is not a true indicator of a fixing, plus there will be no logical sens to fake a sound.
    I can produce much louder cracks with my back when I get adjusted 🙂

  7. Well, you are certainly right that the sound is not an indication of fixing anything. The instrument in my hand, which does make a clicking noise when the spring-loaded mechanism is activated, is essentially an impact hammer that moves things that are stuck…like a vertebra. That sound might mask the presence of a joint going pop, but I believe the popping sound of a joint only happens when it is moved further, as in manual adjustments. Even then, the noise is not the issue; the motion is.

  8. I was not criticizing anything, if so was intended!
    I was talking about the supposed faked cracking noise produced by the "pen" as the other user called, wich is a ridiculous statement, as well as the "cheating".
    I am a Chiro patient and supporter since 2003, and I am familiar wit all the tables, instruments, and techniques used, and I am certainly not one of those saying that the table makes the sound or something, it is like you say, and has separate sections for a reason 🙂

  9. Yes, I got that. No worries, I didn't interpret you comments as critical at all. I can imagine that, for patients who cannot see what I am doing "behind their back" w/ unfamiliar noises, sensations, etc., it might seem like I'm just making the whole thing up. If it weren't so common for them to immediately feel better, I'm sure they would go away with questions. My purpose for monitoring this video is to try to respond to authentic comments or questions about what is possible. Thanks for yours.

  10. sure is right. we must kill the bad fat and belly first to get the 6 pack. Listen I heard that most of the celebrities used to follow to kill their belly using this 7 food items. you can see it here >>>

  11. Laser is a means of delivering concentrated light energy to the tissues, and Low Level Laser (non-heating, non-surgical) is used for the purpose of modulating cell behavior. By up-regulating the mitochondrial production of ATP it increases the available energy to the cell, which allows it to do more of what it is doing. This can facilitate neuromuscular communication, lymph drainage, cell repair, etc. You can expect to see an increase in the usage of laser and other forms of "energy medicine."

  12. Cellular respiration in animals (the process by which ATP is produced in animals) is powered by glycolisis, the breakdown of sugar. Light and lasers are not involved in this process. The only organisms that produce energetic compounds from light (or laser) are plants and I believe some single celled life forms/(?)protozoa. Could you explain in detail (boichemically) the process by which a laser shone onto the surface of the body contributes to cellular respiration? Many thanks, Tom.

  13. Thanks for your question, Tom. I'm not a biochemist, so you might be interested in reading some of Lipton's work. He is a cell physiologist and considered by many the father of epigenetics. However, I can tell you that all of your cells give off photons (light), and that mitochondria respond to laser stimulation by increasing their output of ATP. In just the past 3 days I've seen news reports of plant cell processes showing quantum behavior at room temperature, and mathematical activity, too.

  14. The simple fact is, things are not the way that they appear, and if one is too attached to what we presently understand, by virtue of what we are able to demonstrate via the scientific method, then there will be some missed opportunities to influence outcomes my mechanisms unknown. I am a clinician, rather than a researcher, so I accept the confusion that comes from combining more than one treatment, since positive patient outcomes are what I am paid to achieve, whether or not I can explain it.

  15. Thanks for your prompt reply. If shining a laser on someone creates ATP then forget Chiropractic, you've solved the problem of famine. That's not a facetious comment, it would literally be the case, you could take a starving person (whose body is eating itself in a bid to make ATP) shine a laser on them and save their life. Ask yourself this 'How do I know that this laser is making ATP and that the increased ATP is aiding recovery?'

  16. Well, you're very polite but it seems to me that you are picking a fight. May I ask what your qualifications are for participating in a discussion of clinical physiology? It would appear that you are missing a few pieces of the puzzle, which will make for a rather difficult communication. Rather than me trying to offer you information, I would encourage you to review the FDA approval for class 2 lasers and their affect on reduced inflammation, cell regeneration, and improved blood flow. Cheers.

  17. Thanks again. I can only find articles on laser ablation of tissue on FDA website. I don't want a fight at all. I was hoping for an explanation on the laser/ATP business as it seems to run against what is(I) understood about cell physiology. I have only an A-Level in biology, Bachelor of Nursing (Mental Health) and PgCert in pharmacotherapeutics. I don't think DC's need lasers, you have an excellent understanding of biomechanics and anatomy and a means of providing manual treatment. Regards, Tom

  18. Fair enough. My use of laser is due to my belief that chiropractic is essential but not sufficient in many cases. Especially so if one treats patients w/ complex disorders without pharmacology. Going beyond musculoskeletal conditions requires more than biomechanics. And, it has been very helpful w/ athlete's recovery from intense training, with obvious benefits to performance. The old model of cell anatomy that I was trained in has been superceded by a new understanding, see James Oschmann, PhD.

  19. As a chiropractic student, I have so many questions about the variety of techniques you used! It's all very fascinating. But I'll just start with one:
    What method do you use to determine whether there is a desirable effect from each of the treatments/instruments you use?

  20. Good question. Legs even, arms even, face up or face down; normal response to manual muscle testing; noticeable improvement in static and motion palpation, as well as ROM (active and passive). I may not check every one of those, but they should all indicate the same thing. As you are learning, I suggest that you DO check all of them, in order to develop you skills and level of discernment. Once you are confident in your ability to interpret indicators, then you MAY be able to short cut, using 1.

  21. He's using Applied Kinesiology Tom e.g. muscle monitoring/testing and also the stress he found in the Liver meridian from Acupuncture/TCM. There are many forms of Applied Kinesiology and it was first designed by Chiroprac "Dr George Good Heart" in 1964, Also have you heard of Laser Acupuncture or light therapy ? It has been proven to be effective. Dr Chalse Krebs and Dr Richardt Utt are worth checking out. The future is "Mind Body Medicine" as the body and mind are connected.

  22. There is alot of BS about in chiropractic. This laser business is an example, KST is another. There is evidence that adjusting the spine can help with low back pain, but don't poke me with a stick to cure my asthma, that's nonsense.

  23. You are right that there is good data to support chiropractic care for low back pain. Boring, but demonstrable, due to research into that specific question. There is a proposed mechanism, but it differs markedly from that of laser, which has been demonstrated to reduce inflammation, reduce recovery time from exertion, and reduce healing time for trauma. Asthma is a different thing entirely, and the occasionally dramatic responses to chiropractic are poorly understood and not reliably reproduced.

  24. Today's list of 10 things to know included this one at #5. WHY TYLENOL CAPS ARE GETTING NEW WARNING LABELS? Because, "Overdoses from acetaminophen send 55,000 to 80,000 people to the emergency room in the U.S. each year and kill at least 500." Now, I know that there has been a concerted effort in the last few years to paint a picture of danger associated with chiropractic care. But these statistics tell a very specific tale of dangerous meds that too often goes undiscussed and poor health care.

  25. My feeling is this: There are a lot of unproven, poorly understood efforts to treat people who want to feel better than they do. Some of those methods are even dangerous and deadly. The fact is, the overwhelming majority of the damage caused to people in the name of health is caused by medical technologies, procedures, and drugs, even though these same interventions may save lives in the ER. The fact that a treatment may be unproven (like 85% of M.D. care) does not tell us if it is useful.

  26. 85% of M.D. care unproven? Where do you get your facts?
    By saying "it just works, people don't understand everything that works" is a cop-out for a complete lack of actual proof and logical evidence that this works. At best you get a placebo, which then means your unethical for making a living off of what people can get from a sugar pill for 5 cents.
    Sorry but snake oil in health care pisses me off.

  27. I dissected 2 humans, never saw any liver meridians.
    Also what is the impact rating of the journal that article is in? Close to 0.

  28. I am not uncomfortable w/ the fact that many treatments do not have evidence for them, and my stats come from a study done (early 90's?), published in a medical journal that only 15% of interventions had been VALIDATED by double blind studies. Most doctors use methods that they are familiar and comfortable with, even when the evidence is weak, if they believe that it will benefit the patient. That is why it is a Practice of an Art and Science. I take it that you are not a medical doctor, but….

  29. … no worries; you won't be forced to try something that millions of people have been benefited by. And, as far as placebo is concerned, you may not understand that the placebo-effect is active in ALL treatments, even those w/ a specific, understood, and PROVEN mechanism. But if you look at the PDR you will see that the most common explanation for a drug effect is "mechanism of action unknown." I don't know about you, but that suggests to me that we MODIFY things more than we UNDERSTAND them 😉

  30. O, here is more to think about: "Seasoned clinicians recognize the importance of expectation, intent and touch in the healing process. As reported in the popular press, "Placebo treatments or no treatment appeared to work just as well as drugs in a large percentage of headache patients participating in more than 100 studies." Detractors of alternative health have suggested that positive results from alternative and complementary approaches may be nothing more than the placebo effect." And…

  31. … as recently reported in a chiropractic newspaper; "Placebo effects are so strong that a recent article stated 97 percent of U.K. doctors have prescribed placebos. The physicians reported using placebos to create psychological treatment effects, because patients asked for treatment, or to reassure patients." My point is, you are not the first to complain about placebo, but your way of thinking seems to be at odds with professionals, both medical and others, who are familiar with patient care.

  32. And, while many attempts have been made to "find" the meridians, none that I know of have found tissue to match the location. However, Bjorn Nordenstrom, in his landmark text, Biologically Closed Electrical Circuits, has presented evidence for FUNCTIONAL pathways that correlate with acupuncture meridians. For a corollary in the world at large, one might look to Atmospheric Rivers, such as I experienced on the West Coast US. Not on any map, just "there" in reality, to be observed if alert enough.

  33. I have a lot of issues, my hip is askew to the point that one of my shoulders is much lower than the other. I try too my chiropractor

  34. Many chiropractors had the ability to heal people and even inspire people to try this amazing treatment. Even here in Cannington, many people are trusting our Chirpractors.

  35. Last week (Sept. 20) the popular & highly respected This American Life radio show devoted its entire broadcast to reporting that, "One of the country's most popular over-the-counter painkillers – acetaminophen, the active ingredient in Tylenol – also kills the most people, according to data from the federal government. Over 150 Americans die each year on average after accidentally taking too much. And it requires a lot less to endanger you than you may know."

  36. Greetings; This is Dr. G and I need help returning to practice after an illness and injury that closed my office. I'm locateable through my website, and I'm in Monterey, CA. Without going into details here, short story is I was injured in an auto accident, after being made ill by a contaminated supplement that I was taking (same products I was using in my patient care). Ironic, eh? So, 29 years after I began clinical apprenticeship, I get to start again! Big task, but that's what is presented.

  37. LLT has only been proven effective when done for a longer duration of time. I don't think there have been any studies proving the use of it for a few seconds and I'm sure there are no studies saying it can be used through blue jeans. I also have to disagree with many of the things he told her but I'm not going to continue writing a novel. 😀

  38. Proof is an very high bar. If you have not used LLT clinically then I really wouldn't know where to begin with a response to your statement. As a clinician I am interested in eliciting observable, repeatable responses in my patients. There is nothing you see that is not demonstrably creating what I seek, whether it has been proven or not. If I chose to limit myself to the use of what has already been proven and/or understood by others, then I suspect my results would be no better than theirs.

  39. Great job DR.
    I just had an ACL replacement surgery. Would a chiropractor be able to help me with recovery time?


  40. It's interesting to compare this video with the 2007 adjustment video.  The 2007 video is based around "traditional" chiropractic techniques such as raising and lowering the legs to measure the "shortness" of the feet, whereas in this video Doc Gunter is using a variation of Freddie Ulan's Nutrition Response Testing with the pushing/pulling of the arms ("hold this)" every few seconds to see if Ms. Kintner is "switched."  Assuming these videos come in four year intervals, it will be interesting to see if Dr. Gunter has incorporated KST or Gonstead techniques into his next video.

  41. Is the "crack" of the joint an absolute must for the adjustment to work?? I've been to many chiropractors who when adjusting, would continue to push until a crack happened while some others would tell me that the adjustment is still effective regardless of the audible cracking noise. Others would react as if the adjustment didn't happened because sometime my back would be so stiff that they couldn't get a crack out of it. And when they got a really great crack, they would act as if that's a great thing, like the adjustment worked because my joints cracked.

  42. Jonathan MKT asks if the crack is necessary; clinical observation would suggest that the answer is "no", and I base this on analysis of the patient's indicated need for adjustment, which includes postural deficits, palpably aberrant motion, altered range of motion, and positive indicators of muscle tests. All of these signs will change when corrective inputs to the nervous system are administered, with or without the "pop". And if the pop comes from an inconsequential place, none of them with change.

  43. Having said that, the presence of absence of the popping sound (which we think is nitrogen gas coming "out of solution" with an adventitious sound-effect) is part of the story of that joint. My experience suggests that absence of sound indicates either very little (if any) movement, or was mitigated by effective mobilization of the joint/soft-tissues prior to the thrust; a dry-twig snapping sound indicates long-term adaptation to lack of motion, and will get higher in frequency with progressive treatment until it gets small and imperceptible; a champagne-cork pop is newer and often associated with muscle hypertonicity in relevant muscles.

  44. The take-home message to the chiropractor is to have, and regularly use, a reliable method of on-the-spot, in the moment assessment to verify correction with assumption. One such method, that is yet to gain widespread acceptance among my peers, is muscle testing as described by Kendall and Kendall, and later adapted by Goodheart and others. Unfortunately, the use of muscle testing has become associated with fringe concepts that some find hard to understand, integrate, or accept. The result is that those who eschew any indication of fringe thinking take comfort in avoiding the use of the tool.

  45. This strikes me as the equivalent of a medical doctor saying that they won't use phlebotomy because it was once associated with the removal of "evil humors", even though we now know that some people accumulate too much iron and need to have it removed; by phlebotomy. To be sure, accurate muscle testing is an acquired skill that some may have difficulty gaining. But having poor hearing is no excuse for decrying the use of a stethoscope for the classification of heart murmurs. And, I believe, the value of the skill far outweighs the cost of time associated with mastery thereof.

  46. "It was a 27 minute video edited to less than 10 minutes for Youtube."

    If this is the case then I would love to see the 27 minute video. Would it be possible to upload it now that Youtube allows videos longer than 10 minutes?

  47. I am kinda taken a back at the snark this DC has entered into on this message board. Yes there are is a lot of anti DC rhetoric out there but to respond with smug, holier than thou comments…especially the mensa one is really weak. Also I would ask what is your profit margin on the supplements you sell through your office? Ya I know..I am dumb and dont get it just like every other poster on here who has offered an objection. Your responses are vaguely familiar to that of a religious apologist…you cant quantify exactly what benefit you have you just see the positive responses you elicit.  You use the unknown to place where your therapy "could" work. Also I love the disparagement of actual doctors who you describe as being only being in the pocket of big pharma. Really sad. 

  48. Question sir! I have a herniated disc that effects my L4, L5, and S1. I'm seeing a chiropractor, but he only uses the gun thing tool. You know what im talking about. Anyway i was just wondering if i should see someone who does more. Thanks, have a great day.

  49. Question , when will dr. G make more videos. . Once a year for an avid subscriber isn't enough. . Come on doc come through for your fans

  50. Dr. Gunter, I have a question I would like to ask you. I have noticed a lump-roughly the size of the tip of my finger-on the back  of my neck right at the base of my skull on the left side of my neck. It doesn't hurt when I move my neck but when I touch it with my hand it's tender to the touch. Have you ever heard of anything like that before? It's worrying me a bit.

  51. You got so many more views on this video, compared to the 27 minute video of the session… You just let the Dr do his thing and it was edited properly.. Good work and keep it up I love your videos.

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