Can Racing Games Make You Faster in Real Life?

Can Racing Games Make You Faster in Real Life?

[Music] it may be shocking to hear coming from a youtuber but my work rarely allows me time to play video games anymore when I do get the chance to game though I’ll usually be playing a racing game Gran Turismo forza or something like that the more realistic the better the demanding physics and model accuracy really does it for me but do I expect two video games to make me a better driver in real life not really playing on a controller or a gamepad like I do at home the best I could hope for is maybe learning the layout of a real-life track or beginning to understand basic concepts like smoothness and weight transfer but even then some extrapolation is required for example if I’m playing Gran Turismo and ymr two starts snap over searing very realistic feature by the way then I know I need to dial in a little bit of opposite lock to catch the slide so on a gamepad that’s going to look a little something like this in a real life it’s gonna look something like this not exactly apples to apples so playing gran turismo may familiarize me with the concept of steering through a slide but playing it on a gamepad isn’t going to give me that instinctive muscle memory that I’ll need to catch a slide when I’m on track in real life luckily wheel setups do exist all right now we’re playing a more modern Gran Turismo a more modern PlayStation on a modern entry-level Logitech G 29 wheel and pedal setup on my buddy Graham’s DIY racing rig you want muscle memory you got it kind of we attempted saves more than we actually successfully completed them but you still got the idea of what it was like to opposite lock with this setup GT sport has a fairly nice physic system compared to most the market these days so feeling the car react to weight transfer braking and surface changes super satisfying but in the grand scheme of driving rigs we haven’t even scratched the surface yet for that I needed to go to Richmond Virginia to talk to a bunch of guys that take all this way more seriously than I do [Music] [Music] gone [Music] I’m Zach McAfee I’m the managing director of sim seats so we fabricate and assemble and install driving simulators we’re primarily turnkey a simulator is a way to get your track time without actually being at the track and it has steering wheel as gas pedal it has shifter at the seat of course and it’s PC driven this would be the top of the line packet just is called this is a sim seats Legend package and it’s got four corner motions so the whole thing moves as vibration – it has a director eye steering wheel this is very heavy wheel just like you feel in the car and very accurate which we found is very helpful with driving at the limit it also has hydraulic pedals so you’ve got a hydraulic brake pedal I draw it clutch so when you press on the pedal you’re actually pulling in a cylinder it’s going through a master cylinder just like in a car it’s got a 49 inch ultra wide has really nice surround sound so this would be the top level packages they would you would use this for training you’re looking at about a thirty five thousand dollar package if you’re scoffing at the notion of someone paying Type R money for a glorified Mario Kart Double Dash simulator you’re probably not the target audience often these high-end rigs are getting picked up by companies and racing teams to train drivers on but as any track addict knows there’s no limit to the amount of money a bad track habit can cost you if you buy a simulator for three five six thousand dollars somebody might respond and say well I could buy a track ready Spec Miata for 9 grand Prabha comes with a trailer ok same price as a simulator but you haven’t gone to the track yet and you haven’t bent it up yet you haven’t gone through a set of brake pads yet you haven’t bought any gas yet I think people recognize that too particularly ones that have a sim and you can go as many races you want in a day and not spend a dollar so this is a three foot tall 10 foot wide 180 degree duel projector setup not quite as realistic as VR VR you actually you will get most people do get motion sickness you kind of have to build up with how long you have to do it five ten minutes at a time so that’s good come away from it for half an hour and go back to it because people do get sick and nauseous from using it so this is I think it’s kind of just under that in terms of reality yes the iRacing goes and visits these teams that have these race cars so they go to Williams and McLaren and f1 they go to Porsche and Ferrari and Mercedes for the GT style cars on on up and down and there are using what those engineers tell them sizes of vehicles they laser scan the cars as well as the I guess the engineering data that comes out of them to help develop the way the car would react in real life in the conditions that you’re driving in iRacing is used at the top levels of all Motorsports so there are f1 drivers that do use it there are many Monster Energy Cup drivers and so everything is just that next level of more accurate whether it be bumps whether it be the handling of the vehicle whether it be the the dynamics that occur in a in a car you know tire wear fuel loads what happens when the car gets too hot tires get too hot that kind of stuff it’s just that next level of accuracy that iRacing offers over say a console style game it’s starting to become a reality that if you don’t have a sim then the guy that’s faster than you might be faster because he’s getting more track time because if you’re only going out once a month to race and the other guy is on the track every other day that’s going to make him faster right so these guys are pretty big proponents at Simmons but you’d expect that because they sell them to get a different opinion I’d have to go to the track where all the magic happens [Music] I really enjoy some racing I think that for some people some people styles of driving some people’s experience some people what they need to improve on I think that it can help people tremendously really good for learning tracks it’s really good for learning wheel the wheel racing and and figuring out you know we kind of where you are where other people are going to be reading people seeing where they’re gonna be I don’t necessarily think that you need to be good at sim racing to be good at time attack I know have lots of friends that I cannot compete with and some racing even when I practice a lot I just don’t have the feel maybe in a full motion $50,000 sim rig I could do it but in a seat with a steering wheel and a set of pedals I can’t feel it innocent without you know without a lot of fancy suspension that moves you like okay could be bumps and so on but we have his noise sound in the site it’s like I’m trying to drive a car through marshmallow I can’t feel anything so that was that disconnect for me really even even now I’m still you know using I racing to kind of learn tracks to even some time for fun I’m using their rally to kind of practice my concentration how long I can you know stay concentrated for a long period of time but to say okay I’m gonna drive in a form of Mazda on this track so I can do for my Mazda like really really well in real life not not for me I can’t do that hey there I’m Tom O’Gorman and I am a development driver for Honda performance development when people ask how I got started in racing I usually say sim racing sim racing was a huge influence on my my ability to transition to real cars and shallow the learning curve so first and foremost for me simracing teaches you to drive proactively with your eyes you don’t have a lot of feel to react to depends on how much feedback the wheels giving you that you have but if you are learning to drive proactively just based on your vision you learn to interpret speed you learn to be ahead of the car with your vision so that you’re not just reacting to what’s happening underneath you on top of that you can really learn race craft if you’re playing online with real people even if you’re just playing Forza horizon with somebody you’re learning a level of race craft because the physics are close enough to how cars react to one another and how momentum works and how cornering work all of those things at the point I’m at now simulators are less applicable to my real life I try not to take it too seriously and treat it more like I’m just having a good time when I get on and play with some friends I find that I’m more successful now if I don’t try to just like apply it exactly like a real car so we’ve just gotten a little bit more insight you know the question of does sim racing make you faster you may recognize James and Jackie from our grid life coverage these past couple of years they’re both extremely fast and talented time-attack and wheel the wheel drivers who’ve done their fair share of record-setting their complaints sort of mirror each other without an expensive Legends package level set up you’re missing out on the seat-of-the-pants feel of driving at the limit for them simracing is great practice but not necessarily required for going fast as two guys who are dedicated to setting records they’d sim more if they thought it’d be a big help Tama Gorman on the other hand is a pro racing driver who doesn’t primarily compete in Time Attack his bread and butter is wheel-to-wheel competition he’s not just any racer either Tom and his team win a lot he’s an unbridled badass and I would suspect may be part Terminator the fact that Tom races so much wheel the wheel is significant I think because that seems to be where he finds the most value in the sim racing the race craft race craft simply put refers to the skills and tactics employed when racing against others one to attack one to defend how to manage tires across a stint where to position your car on the line to prevent a pass good race craft is what allows drivers to complete a race with their cars and tax or race craft is well but just like Tom said virtual racing was his gateway to a very successful racing career when he began he was only 13 to young to drive a real car let’s say you’re too young or don’t have a car that you can take to the track it would seem that even exclusively virtual driving can be a big help preparing you for the day that you can finally do it for real but before I was satisfied I needed to talk to one more person someone who spent more time playing racing games than anyone else I could think of hello hey ma’am can you hear me yeah I kind of do this is Steve better known to the Internet as super GT steve is a fellow youtuber and someone who I’m a big fan of so I was a little bit nervous during this interview and unlike the rest of the drivers and sim experts I’ve spoken to up to this point rather than racing real cars or selling simulations Steve makes his living playing them just make it even easier and so the guy had really isn’t making the most of the slipstream of the car ahead of him people’s to go defensive than the right-hand side might not be yeah so turn on a pursuit GT I focus on racing games and simulations you could say predominantly Gran Turismo Forza Motorsport rally those those series made me so the main types videos I do is really just me playing online and then I go over and commentate over my experience the race whether it went well whether it went badly this guy trying to break the slipstream and just not gonna work against me I’m following him religiously by advice my religion is slipstream I pray to that God every straight experience are having racing isn’t just on games it’s also in the life in racing karts since I was 10 years old can you carry over from games and simulations into reality let’s say you’re really quick on Forza 7 you can just churn out top 10 that times I don’t think that is necessarily gonna make you quick and real life but the things that do carry over are just general decision-making knowing when to overtake went to defense but which line you should take for the corner know when to pressure someone not feeling pressure from something from behind there’s more sort of being more clinical that kind of thing rather than just outright speed I’ve never really felt that a game would make me quicker in real life but wait does do it makes me make better decisions from the smarter decisions understand the race better and just make less mistakes I think that’s the kind of thing that really does improve we’ve heard from a wide range of folks in this video and we’ve done a little bit of a different perspective from each of them and I think that everyone here was right and significantly I was wrong I began this video under the assumption that playing a mainstream video game like Gran Turismo on a controller couldn’t really teach me anything but as I’ve learned that’s not the case virtual practice will be more or less useful depending on how you play and what you’re practicing for if you’re looking to learn a track practice your race craft or just feel like you’re driving a car in your living room sim seats can sell you that experience in spades and they’re awesome passionate guys I really can’t recommend them enough but as Jackie and James said if your goal is to simply put down the fastest lap possible on the track or begin to feel comfortable in your car maybe real life see time is what you should strive for most and of course as Tom and Steve both pointed out if you want to learn how to race with others there’s no safer and more efficient way to hone your skills in race craft than in a game or sim regardless of whether that’s I racing or Forza but something else that I’ve learned is that the most fun I’ve ever had is behind the wheel of a real car at a real track so if most of your driving has been confined to the virtual I would definitely recommend that you get out there and try it in real life because I just don’t think that you can have more fun can you do me one more favor before we yes yeah can you say just just for my own 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100 Replies to “Can Racing Games Make You Faster in Real Life?”

  1. Only just got around to watching this. Amazing work. Really well put together!!! Thank you once again for having me on the channel.

  2. All teams say that they are only used for learning the tracks, anything other than that is bullshit.
    Of coarse people that make sim toys are going to say anything to sell their product.
    The best way will be to take your car to an AutoX event, or do a Track day.
    I have done all the above, and been sim racing for 20 years. Sure sim racing is fun,
    and you can learn driving techniques, and track layouts, but will it make you faster… NO
    It might shorten the beginners learning curve is all.

  3. Actually by driving in Forza through the years, I notice that in a dangerous conditions I was totally focused and never felt panic, I knew what to do and how to do it feeling always in control, meanwhile my two passengers thought we were close to a huge accicent on the highway due a car crashed agains a dog (poor dog btw). Conclution: Yes, you become better driver.

  4. A tool in the toolbox is what sim racing is,and only real sims not games like Forza and Gran Turismo(GT fan since the beginning) 8 year member of iRacing now.Took my C5 out on a track day weekend event,and was able to get my novice solo license on my second out(Barber motor-sports park).My instructor said that my simulator experience showed.I was trail braking in the corners and got the car a little unhappy just once,and i was like whoa.and i said to him yea i been trail braking in the corners he says yea i know but i was doing a good job at it,that he didn't say anything.Point is they said in the drivers meeting at our level we were only to strait line brake.We were allowed to pass in the straits with a hand signal for safety.Slower drivers must not hold up faster drivers.I was able to pass many people with far superior cars to mine.So my opinion is can sim help is yes.Is it real to life NO.Like one of the pro drivers said it can help you learn RACE CRAFT.Trying to learn this in real life could cost you a lot more than hitting the reset button if you get it wrong.Even though i was faster than probably every novice out there i knew in the back of my mind if i run off the track,and hit a wall,it is going to cost me real money,and possibly pain.Sim racing is great but its like asking someone if there scared of heights while your on the ground to only find out later they cant even go 40ft on an extension ladder.Doing 140 MPH in real life is not the same as it is on a sim.

  5. These rigs are meant for professional racing teams, for amateur track enthusiasts nothing can replace the actual circuit experience and they are better off spending their money on track days.

  6. Karting in real life together with Sim Racing on a decent setup will make you much more prepared for the real thing (track days).

  7. Racing games made me love driving and racing cars and if you take it too seriously,yes of course it can help you in real life.

  8. The answer is no… Absolutely not. Like saying playing a boxing game will make you a better boxer… Stupid as hell guys. Stop comparing games to real life lmao

  9. How about normal people save money learning tracks at least. So it may not make you ultimately faster but it makes your faster, faster ?

  10. No. But it can be a fun way to learn the tracks that you'll be racing. As good racing games and simulators might have become, they're still not even close to the real thing. Not even close.

  11. No they don't.
    Just ask all the best race car drivers from the 1970s and 1980s…
    (when racing was racing)
    Before the internet and PlayStation or Xbox came out. The best advice you've going to get is in a real car.

  12. Even a Arcade-Sim like FM thought me how cars react, what should I if I lose grip (in which way), and most importantly, where my wheels are. Not to mention being waay smoother too. I feel like I became sharper overtime and my experience on Sims carried over to real life and my experience on real life carried over sims.

    Also yeah, FM sucks if you want realism. I'm currently on AC, iRacing is extremely expensive to consider (Turkish currency is a joke).

  13. try real racing 3.
    It really improved my control of steering in real life.
    I am not scared of fast-moving intersections nowadays because of that.

  14. Sure they can, it gives u some experience. Ofc u dont get real feeling but there is no discussion or video needed to know that u can learn the basics or getting a faster race driver. so obvious.

  15. I could say only one thing. Yes Live For Speed, Assetto Corsa or Project Cars with wheel helped me a lot. Drivers license for first try and even at start i would do it.

  16. Ok so I raced KARTS as a younger person did well Got into Stockcars at 14 on dirt did great then the family business burned to the ground after a lighting storm and we just could not afford to continue. Everyone felt like I was pretty good that was in the early 70s
    Move forward to the first sim racing game of NASCAR 1 PAPYRUS and I got hooked been doing it ever since
    Forward to 2017
    Got a ride in a Asphalt Modified at our local track never raced one
    First time out took the pole finished in 3rd
    Second time out took the Pole SET QUICK TIME FOR THE TRACK finished 2nd
    They stopped the Pro series at the track dont have a ride

  17. I've done the VR thing, on a very similar setup; the 4 corner motion and other stuff, and I didn't get motion sick at all. And that was my first time ever doing it, and I'm only 13. I also hope to start drifting as I get my permit an license. At home, I drive on a Logitech G920 setup with the optional shifter, and a custom made wood table for it. I had my dad help me with the table, he made the models for the pieces, and sent them to his workplace's shop, where there is a 3D printer, laser cutter, all that fancy shit, and got it carved out. Then we put it together, tested it, and noticed we needed to add supports as it had a tendency to tip. We had extra wood at home and just quickly cut two pieces and glued them to the side. The seat I use is just a chair from Costco. I sit on a few pillows, as I'm still a bit short, but all in all it's perfect for me

  18. Short answer yes it can I mean f1 drivers that's how they practice alot many many people do it and no it isnt identical that's jot the damn point its learning corners how your supposed to hold your lines things like that the sims are to get the feeling close but of course that wont be the same but the certain things you should pay attention to will def help you out I've seen a sim racer that never drove an f1 car go into a real f1 car and kill it shockingly I mean it does help

  19. My dad have a friend now he is a profesional drifter and he have a 370z with rall cage spoiler and all requierments for drifting …when he was younger used to learn and train with a simulator

  20. A steering wheel is the best simulator game ever its like the dream that I want to do because I’m still a teenager and I cant drive fast as i do in the games…
    What i mean to tell is that games aren’t like real life but steering wheels will 900% it will improve u and its really good for learning and fun!!!❤️❤️❤️

  21. I think it can as my Dad and my mum told me a storie that my day had a BMW m3 and he was drifting it round for some reason on the streets. He said it effected in his driving playing Grand Trismo. Lol

  22. I’ve taught 4 people how to drive stick by using a g29 setup. When they went into real car they were ok to drive manual comfortably within an hour.

  23. I actually learned to drive playing Meet For Speed Underground 2 with a steering wheel control and pedals, said control It was from my cousin Ronnie who lent it to me for a few weeks and during those weeks I played like crazy using the pedals and the steering wheel, the first time I tried to drive a vehicle in real life just repeating what I had learned in the game and in fact it was very simple, so yes I learned to drive thanks to a video game

  24. To me, and some may say it's an oversimplification, I think it helps overall. This was my thought before watching the video, and it turns out it's pretty much what the consensus seems to be. But it's not necessarily backwards compatible in all aspects. It's substantially more beneficial if you go from sims to real world, than from real world, to sims. Because nothing is as good as the real thing obviously, once you step down, you're not getting the same benefits. Great video.

  25. I completely agree. You can understand and get more comfortable in real world from a sim but it doesnt just make you better at driving a certain car.

  26. First time i drove a real car i was only 12yo, my dad let me drove that car for almost half a year before he sold it. I just fell in love with driving and with the idea of having a car but obviously i was way too young to drive on city streets. At 14 he bought me a g920 and i had no idea how to use it, yet after 2 years of practice, 300+ hr just in assetto corsa, ets2 and fh3/fh4 i believe i improved a lot. I love drifting and now i can tandem on almost every track i get some practice on, got my best lap time on the nurburgring, 7:47 with a manual e30 and now im trying to improve on GT3 racing. So yes i think you can improve with just a steering wheel, not really a 35k sim.

  27. I dont have my drivers license yet but I can say sim driving has helped me a lot. I pretty much taught myself how to park a car in city car driving to the point where I can park a car in real life which I hear is a big challenge for new drivers, so I say if you want to dip your toes into driving whether it be every day driving practice or to be the next pikes peak winner sim wheel setups are a great way to start

  28. wohoo … thank you Gt for putting PC/Sim racers in the spotlight …and ofcourse many many other amasing players /drivers/racers … awesome documentary

  29. I'm being in the process of obtaining my license right now and a few days ago I was horrible at shifting, I started playing Forza with manual shifting on. Not because I thought it could help me or something and then I understood more about why you have to shift down/up and I'm actually better at driving now.

  30. Of course they do! They trained me to wreck cars into oblivion whenever i get mad or need to get
    a higher position.

  31. The short answer is yes. I've been a petrolhead since I was a kid. My dad put me in a go-kart the first time when I was 10 years old and tried to teach me how to take corners. What gran turismo and my simulator has taught me is how to take corners, seating position, breaking points etc which has improved the way I drive in real life. I've noticed that when I kept myself away from the simulator for months my driving IRL suffered a bit in terms of reaction speed. As soon as I sit there for a couple of hours it comes back to me. Yes

  32. Obviously sure,even f1 drivers use simulators to train,even if u play with controller n not steeering wheel u are going 2 learn how 2 take the curves

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